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CES 2017: Controversial red light cameras defeated by clever electronics design

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CC VanDorne
CC VanDorne
1/17/2017 1:37:25 PM
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I have dreamt of making this very device and I applaud the designers.  Thank you for this article.

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1/11/2017 1:41:15 PM
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Only a fool (or worse) would argue that running red lights isn't dangerous, but there's a difference between approaching a light that's red and intending to run it vs. someone missing the light change by a tenth of a second because as Steve says, they misjudged "that last minute decision to enter the intersection on a yellow light or not." 

I think one of the reasons there is widespread distrust of these cameras is that there appear to be kickback mechanisms in place for the companies that sell police departments the cameras.  Locally, there have been reports of a company that got somewhere around 30% of the ticket revenues for providing the cameras.  I think it makes the people suspicous that the whole things is a fundraising exercise, not a safety exercise. 

In an age where even the most cursory search of the term "civil forfeiture" turns up tons of horror stories, people are afraid of that.

 

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emeric2
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1/9/2017 2:05:31 PM
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The CES 2017 is looking very interesting, it remains to know what other finds will be presented!

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steve.taranovich
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1/9/2017 12:53:09 PM
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@antedeluvian---I am neither for or against what this product does until I see more statistics that are verifiable regarding truly dangerous red light runners and people who get unfairly ticketed because of this technology. I just wonder why this product has not been made illegal if it is deemed dangerous.

My main interest in this blog was only to admire the creativity and the persistence of the designer and the flow of the design process as a help to designers that read Planet Analog.

Maybe the so-called Red Light Camera idea should be refined in order to catch truly speeding cars that ignore red lights and not punish those who have to make that last minute decision to enter the intersection on a yellow light or not.

It certainly is a controversial subject

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antedeluvian
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1/9/2017 9:33:11 AM
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Running red lights kills, maims and causes damage. This device allows (perhaps even encourages) a driver to threaten society with impunity. I fail to see how this device qualifies as a benefit in any way.

 

In Ontario the crux of the definition of Professional Engineering is that the design will not harm life nor cause damage to property. It is reasonable to assume that this is true in all jurisdictions. I believe the engineer who designed this should be disciplined.

 

Even if not legally liable, I believe No Limit Enterprises would be morally culpable in the event of an accident and I would hope that some enterprising lawyer would make this point in a court of law. I think that if anyone involved in a collision and has the device installed, should have his insurance claim on his vehicle automatically denied.

 

Perhaps NLE should next design a device that defeats breathalyzers (sarcasm).

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